That’s what an unnamed “league source” has told Y!’s Adrian Wojnarowski, who’s been killing it this offseason with the scoops. Apparently it’s a two-year deal for the MLE that likely includes a partial guarantee for a third season. (Update: Woj just said on Twitter that the total guaranteed value is $15 million.)
For reference, the Pistons are unable to offer the MLE since they have cap space, and they’re unable to go over the cap to keep McDyess since they lost his Bird Rights when they included him in the Billups/Iverson swap.
Update: Here’s my ode to McDyess on FanHouse.
Good for you, Dyess. I hope you end your career with a ring on your finger, and SA is certainly the place to do it. Best of all, you’re not far from home either. Kudos, buddy.
He’s going to have a real chance to win a ring…which he deserves. Still…it’s really sad to see him go.
Good luck Dyess. Grab a couple while you’re there.
Thanks for always playing the game “the right way”. We’ll miss your heart, Dyess.
Your ring will cure my heartache.
Go get a ring Dyess. No matter what happens you’ll always be a champion to Pistons fans.
AS A SAN ANTONIO NATIVE AND SPURS FAN I AM GLAD TO SEE A VETERAN LIKE AD TO BOOST NOT ONLY THE SPURS LEVEL OF PLAY BUT THE LOCKEROOM AS WELL WITH THE ADDITION OF RICHARD JEFFERSON WE WILL GURANTEE A RING FOR ANTONIO THANKS FOR THE COMMENTS PISTONS FANS
We wish you well Antonio! Thanks giving all your heart, strength, mind, and soul. You the Pistons your all. WWJD
nba.com made it official..
The Spurs — whom I’ve always basically liked — are now officially my second favorite team.
It’s too bad that players like Dice don’t read blogs like this (or if they do, they don’t let us know). If they did, they’d see the mad love that we have for players like Dice — players who leave it all out there and genuinely care about the franchise and its fans.
Your ring will cure my heartache.
+1
The Spurs — whom I’ve always basically liked — are now officially my second favorite team.
1) Detroit
2) Denver / SA
3) Maybe Charlotte, if Jod reads the end of the last thread.
It’s too bad that players like Dice don’t read blogs like this (or if they do, they don’t let us know).
Someone tweet @CV31 and tell him to check out DBB.
Why? So he can read about how he kinda sucks?
@ Colin:
Perhaps the criticism will motivate him to exceed our expectations.
Goddamn. Sheed and Dice were my faves on this team - a sort of yin and yang - one fiery and angry and out of control, the other quietly and surely doing his job every night. The one who would get the Ts, who could have been THE MAN but chose not to, the other who was once the man and never could be again and yet played so fucking hard it hurt to watch. The one who jacked up impossible shots and sometimes made them, giving us extremes of anger and joy, the other with a laser-beam to the net from 18″ and yet sometimes did not have the knees to keep up with younger players underneath the rim. The one who screamed “Ball don’t lie” and the other who didn’t talk much but went home after a big loss wearing his jersey. Heart and soul. Gone and gone.
SPINAL TAP! McDyess wasn’t a midget. I meant “18′”.
I’ll miss you Dyess. Thanks for always playing 100% on the court and being a class act. The media will play it as Sheed being a bigger pick up then Dyess, but we all know the truth.
first sheed and now dice, man im really going miss those guys. dice was the paragon of class and i loved how he always left it all on the floor. he deserved better than last years showing. good luck dice, i will be rooting for the spurs in the west!
If Dice can play at the level he did last year, and Manu and Duncan are healthy, the Spurs are probably the best team in the NBA.
Parker/Manu/Jefferson/Dice/Duncan… That is a ridiculously good core.
Add me to the list of people who will be rooting for Dice and the Spurs next season. Also, not only would it be awesome to see Dice get a ring, but if the Spurs could take out LA and the Cav’s along the way, that would be pretty much the next best thing to the Pistons winning the title.
Dice gets a ring, Kobe and Lebron get stomped, one can only hope…
In all my years being a Piston fan, few have moved me like this man has. Go look up classy in any dictionary and he has to be the definition. I remember when Dumars had a citizenship award named after him. I wish we could find a way to honor Dyess the same way. A heart of Gold. Treat him well , San Antonio or you will bring the wrath of Dyess fans on you. Best in class forever.
It feels like I just lost a good friend. I feel I should say something here. But everything’s been said already.
Mad love for Dyess. Classy guy. When the Pistons were sliding last season, Dyess looked like the only one who continued to play at a championship level. I mean, everyone else looked miserable and packed it in. Those 20-20 nights… all the rebounds… all the hustle plays… his sniper 18′ jumpers. Do well, Antonio. Detroit will miss you.
Well, Spurs are my new team out West. I want him to get a ring more than I want Chauncey to get one.
Te amo, Antonio. Te amare’ siempre, hasta el final de los tiempos.
I still hate the Spurs, however.
This doesn’t hurt the way billups did. I am just happy for the guy. We are going nowhere fast, and he is getting another shot at a ring. Couldn’t have gone to a classier organization either.
Fuck, next year’s gonna be weird…
Okay, I love Kelly Dwyer again.
I hope they give out Crawford signs with him dunkin on a photoshop’d lebron with a “we are witnesses” type slogan the first time the cavs come to the palace…that would be priceless.
He might call nike and cry like the Lebaby that he is.
there’s a good photoshop here… which is from yougotdunkedon.com.
Hurts. Hurts bad. Go beat those fuckin’ lakers like a sock with a bar of soap in it.
Antonio McDyess FTW
Joel
Jul 8th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
It feels like I just lost a good friend. I feel I should say something here. But everything’s been said already.
Mad love for Dyess. Classy guy. When the Pistons were sliding last season, Dyess looked like the only one who continued to play at a championship level. I mean, everyone else looked miserable and packed it in. Those 20-20 nights… all the rebounds… all the hustle plays… his sniper 18′ jumpers. Do well, Antonio. Detroit will miss you.
Well, Spurs are my new team out West. I want him to get a ring more than I want Chauncey to get one.
I didn’t write that. I agree with what imposter me said, but still, that wasn’t me.
Dice– you gave a shit when there was no reason to. Here’s hoping Timmy’s knees/Manu’s ankle can hold it together for one more run.
Imposter Me– really? Yoink my handle and not even say/do anything inflammatory?
Some interesting info from Rosenburg about Charlie V.
“Villanueva played at least 30 minutes in 29 games last season. His averages in those 29 games: 23.1 points, 9.0 rebounds, 36 minutes. The rebound numbers especially impressed me, because when his team has the ball, Villanueva spends a lot of time on the perimeter, and it is hard to rebound from there.
By comparison: Toronto star Chris Bosh averaged 22.7 points and 10.0 rebounds in 38 minutes last season.”
He should get a lot of minutes even if we add Bass or make a trade for a big. If he puts up anything close to that we got a steal for 7M a year.
http://www.freep.com/article/20090708/COL22/90708084/1051/rss16
Rasheed Wallace to Boston
sorry I am trying to link a picture of wallace hugging kg b4 game three at the palace. where it is just obvious that sheed is laying down to kg. Its like when you come home from work and your dog meets you at the door, slumped doen low, tail wagging, and you know immediately that this dog done pissed or done some sh!t it had no business doing. this is why we lost the series to boston.ima tryin to link it for you all.
First, Dice you will be missed, and may you get that elusive ring you most definitely deserve.
Second, I love the Charlie V signing and I will love the BG signing if, and only if, we are able to make a deal to get a decent center on our team.(most likely RIP will have to be traded)
Third, if we could pull of that deal with Charlotte that would get us Okafor, Gerald, Wallace, and Diop or Mohammed I would hope that Joe D would jump at that deal. Of course, that deal is just speculation and I don’t think that that deal is an option right now. However it would be nice to have those 2 guys become Pistons.
This is off the subject, but how do Prince get a trading pass, but everybody ready to get rid of Rip. Prince make about the same amount money that Rip does, but their no double teams require for Prince when going up against other teams. Who really should be leaving Detroit?
Does anyone know where the summer league games can be watched either on TV or on the interwebs?
Por Favor!
JB
Even if we didn’t have too many SG’s, I would choose for RIP to leave, but that’s just my personal opinion. RIP is a great scorer no doubt but he isn’t much of anything else. In the right system(Larry Brown) he can run his counterpart ragged, but the past few years he hasn’t really been doing that as much. Prince is your do-it-all kind of guy. He can score if you need him to, he can rebound, he can handle the point guard duties if need be, and he is still a pretty darn good defender. He does it all without having a diva attitude so I definitely like that about him. He is kind of like the glue piece that just holds things together. But a great man once said, “just epinion.”
The only thing I have seen about it says that you have to pay for it like NBA TV or NFL Network. I have seen it for $15. I hope that they at least show a game or two on local TV, but I doubt it.
i hate our off-season so far..
i´ll miss dice, but do i really have to root for san antonio now?
one more thing
correct me if i´m wrong but right now our roster looks a bit ..unbalanced
PG: stuckey/ bynum
SG: rip/ gordon/ afflalo
SF: tay/ daye/ sharpe/ washington
PF: villanueva/ maxiell
C: kwame
spurs got good singing not just for TEAM, but for whole san antnio CITY. mcdyess GOOD player, better PERSON. will be good for spurs TEAM if still has gas in TANK. just epinion
He’s got plenty of gas, coach. Maybe not for three years, but for at least one.
@joe
We have 3,245 shooting guards. We also have 2,917 small forwards, but Tay’s a little younger and his replacements are REALLY young, so he could be useful if only in a “wise old man” type role. Rip on the other hand has been made redundant by the singing of BG, unless we do the “small ball” thing again, and I’m positive that no one wants that.
I don’t see why you guys constantly say Rip is chopped liver now that we have Gordon. Gordon is an awful defender, his opposing eFG% is way over 50%, in fact over 60% when he plays PG. In fact, his team defense is so bad that he actually has a negative net impact on the game.
He’s a Vinnie Johnson type player that you bring off the bench to provide instant scoring. The only problem is that Joe overpaid. Chicago didn’t even give an offer, who’s to say that BG would have turned down an $8 mil/year deal when that’s his best option?
Rip’s not chopped liver, but he is an expensive SG that is 5 years older than the SG we just signed on long term. So regardless if you like him or not, the fact is that he’s redundant now. Hence all the trade scenarios.
And BTW, if we could get Okafor for Rip+extras, we do that deal yesterday.
Players like McDyess are why I watch sports, he brings it EVERY night.
Joel +1
If you look at the composition of our roster over the next few years, there is just no way we can be competitive with over $20 million per year committed to a pair of less than superstar SG’s.
That’s a horrible use of resources almost any way you slice it (as SG is generally the easiest position to find a capable replacement player), and it’s even more devastating because we don’t already have a solid defensive frontcourt in place, which is the only scenario in which having both Rip and Gordon could possibly make sense.
Here’s our salary situation without Gordon/CV added in yet:
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/detroit.htm
With them added we’re up to around $47 mil committed next year for only Rip/Tay/Gordon/CV/Max/Stuck/AA.
We’d be less than $10 mil under next years salary cap, without extending Bynum, and with CV and Max being the only bigs on the roster. That is terrifying.
We’ve got to find the best Grizzlies (oxymoron?) blog on the market… to see if petey makes his way there
“With them added we’re up to around $47 mil committed next year for only Rip/Tay/Gordon/CV/Max/Stuck/AA.”
So Austin Daye, Dejuan Summers and Jerebko aren’t playing for DET next season?
@Boney
I think I might steal Petey’s handle and drop a phonetrace.org (DON’T GO THERE) bomb on their unsuspecting fan-base to try to prepare them for the intense homosexuality they will soon be assaulted with.
@ Boney
May I recommend http://3sob.com/ (Three Shades of Blue)?
@ Boney-
I didn’t list them because I don’t know what their salaries will be (and in the case of Summers and Jerebko, as 2nd round picks they aren’t guaranteed contracts).
But sure, add them to that list, and say that brings us up to around $50m. Then we have maybe $5m in salary cap space, still without Bynum extended, and still with no defensive presence in the frontcourt. I’d say that is pretty worrisome.
Gabe,
I would be surprised if Will Bynum doesn’t sign an extension at some point during the season. ESPECIALLY if Rip or Tay is traded
Hey everybody, on the bright side, notice that Mike hasn’t really came around since Amir was traded?
TRADE UM, SOMEONE, NOW
@ Joel
Did the Pistons just hired a coach or not? I didn’t care for Saunders that much,but I can honestly say that the AI and Rip problems wouldn’t even existed last season,if he was the coach last year.
So I’m not buying that Rip and BG playing together,can’t be a team nightmare, because if that’s the case do we trade Stuckey because the AI and Stuckey duel looked awful.
Nevermind, joe replaced mike.
Yeah, and Ali.
So would this work?
Rip to Utah
Boozer to Char
Okafor to Det
Add in some bench players wherever if need be.
Maybe we could throw in Kwame to Charlotte.
@Joel:
No fucking shit.
If you look at the composition of our roster over the next few years, there is just no way we can be competitive with over $20 million per year committed to a pair of less than superstar SG’s.
Exactly right, Gabe.
I mean, fellas, think about it:
The cap could shrink to 50-53 million next season! And we’ve got 20 mil. invested in SG’s, neither of whom will be All-Stars if on the same roster.
Rip has become redundant, not because his game is worthless, but because he’s older, and his contract just ain’t that great.
For what it’s worth, the Pistons would still have the MLE (if the Pistons are less than about 5.8mil under the cap) to use next year.
This could field a lot if the cap goes down and the teams under the cap have less money (and less inclination) to overbid for players.
For what it’s worth, the Pistons would still have the MLE (if the Pistons are less than about 5.8mil under the cap) to use next year.
We get the MLE if we’re at the cap (and above the cap as well, right?), too.
5.8 will also vary based on the cap, I think… because I think that total is a relagive % to what the cap actually is. Might be wrong about that part, though.
@brgulker:
5.8 will also vary based on the cap, I think… because I think that total is a relagive % to what the cap actually is. Might be wrong about that part, though.
Yep, this is correct.
5.8 mil. will get your more next summer than this summer, that’s for sure. But will 5.8 mil (it will be less than that next summer) be enough to get us a legit Center? Color me skeptical.
@Chaosmonger
That trade scenario might be the best I’ve seen yet. Most people on the Bobcats board don’t like the Rip/Okafor trade because they feel their biggest need is post scoring. Utah needs a good SG. Boozer can score down low for the Cats. And we get our man. Problem is, this needs to happen soon, like ASAP, because if the Jazz let Milsap go to the Blazers (as it’s starting to look like) then there will be no way they let go of Boozer.
@Joel, Chaosmonger
I tried the trade in the ESPN Trade Machine and it works there, for what it’s worth.
That’s all that matters. Now we just need to get the heads of each team’s respective blogs to agree on the deal and we’re good to go.
What did you think about throwing Kwame in there for the ‘Cats too? Boozer/Kwame probably equal what Okafor gives them, and then they expire, of course.
Salaries wouldn’t work with that, Chaosmonger.
Ah, ok. I posted this on realgm and they said Charlotte wouldn’t trade Oak and the Jazz would just cut Det out of the picture. Damn other teams, why can’t they just bend to our whims?
Chaosmonger:
Jordan would never ever take back Kwame Brown. When they were both on the Wizards’ payroll, MJ referred to Kwame as a “Flaming F****t” I’m pretty sure neither of them ever wants to be in the same zipcode as the other except for road games.
Stay classy, Managing Member of Basketball Operations, Mr. Michael Jordan sir.