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A bunch of other stuff commanded my attention today, and to be honest, I wasn’t exactly thrilled about dissecting last night’s loss to the Mavs (although this headline is awesome). One of the few bright spots, though, was the play of Walter Herrmann (aka, Strretch Arrmstrronng), whom Flip Saunders singled out for praise after the game. From Booth Newspapers:
“Walter Herrmann was the only guy we had tonight that gave anything to Nowitzki, as far as made him fight,” Pistons coach Flip Saunders said.
Herrmann is hopeful that his play will lead to more opportunities to play meaningful minutes, beginning tonight against a San Antonio Spurs team that features Manu Ginobili, who like Herrmann, is from Argentina.
“Everybody knows Ginobili,” Herrmann said. “He’s a really, really good player. We need to play hard. I don’t know what will happen tomorrow but I hope to play and help the team win.”
Speaking of Ginobili, I’m reminded of a HoopsHype article that DBB reader Ohad alerted me to last month about how flopping (on both sides of the ball) has infested the NBA:
For 23 years Stern’s silence has implicitly condoned flopping, flailing, diving, leg-kicks and unnatural arm-lifts by shooters (the two fastest growing forms of cheating), and other fool-the-ref techniques employed to gain unmerited free throws and/or saddle key foes with unmerited foul trouble and unmerited bench time in pursuit of unmerited victory. The problem is perpetuated by coaches who teach or at least condone these tactics and by broadcasting clowns who praise the deceivers and thus teach the next generation of hoopsters that this is how a true pro plays the game.
I won’t claim that the Pistons aren’t occasionally guilty (or that the original Bad Boys weren’t innovators), but it’s gone too far, and I’d welcome some kind of penalty being assessed to the worst offenders.
In any case, the Pistons are on the second night of a back to back but most of their starters didn’t even crack 30 minutes last night. The ball tips in a few minutes — leave your thoughts in the comments.
I don’t have a clue what Dirk Nowitzki is saying in the video above, but consider it a little treat for any DBB readers in Germany. (There are DBB readers in Germany, right?) The Pistons are in Texas this weekend for games against the Mavs and Spurs — in fact, we’re almost through the first quarter of the Mavs game as I post this. Leave any thoughts from the game in the comments, and consider this your weekend open thread.
The Pistons are clearly one of the most battle-tested teams in the NBA … but it means little if they can’t win the battles. They lost another one against the Spurs on Friday, a one-point loss that would be disheartening if it weren’t for the fact that they had already spent half the game convincing anyone watching that they weren’t going to win the game.
I no longer understand the idea of starting a game “flat” — it’s become the fall-back answer, and it works great because it’s a blanket excuse that allows the team from thinking, “You know, maybe we’re not a great team.”
Oh sure, Detroit can play like a great team now and then, and if I hear the phrase “best starting five in the league” I think I’ll get sick, but playing occasionally inspired ball and having talent is only part of being great. You also need to want to win. And the easiest way to win a game is to win every quarter, but the Pistons routinely give away quarters left (Friday’s first quarter) and right (Friday’s third).
Detroit allowed the Spurs score the first seven points of the game. In much of the country, that’s commonly referred to as “digging a hole,” but it in Detroit it’s just called “playing the first quarter.” Sure, the Pistons tried to make up for it in the second quarter by outscoring San Antonio 31-18, but it took a Rasheed Wallace technical (Sigh, No. 18. Hello, one-game suspension!) to light the fire. Wallace scored 15 in the frame but cooled off after halftime, allowing the Spurs to regain momentum with a 26-14 third.
The fourth featured Detroit’s inevitable comeback bid (every game has one, even the debacle in Houston on Thursday, as nominal as that was), but that ended on a bad note as Rip Hamilton put on his goat horns with another out-of-character performance at the line. With the Pistons down three with about 11 second left, Rip went 0-for-2, essentially sealing the win for the Spurs. I know Rip has been getting beat up lately and I know he’s not happy about not getting respect from the refs, but what’s the use in getting calls if you’re not going to hit your free throws?
The sad thing is that Rip otherwise played very well: aside from his late-game yips, he shot 8-12 from the field and was one of the few players not jacking up three-pointers. Chauncey Billups shot 3-10 (0-4 from three-ville) but salvaged his day by going 7-7 from the line to finish with 13 points in 25 minutes. Rasheed Wallace shot 8-18 (1-5 on threes) to finish with 21 points and seven boards.
If the Pistons and Spurs were to meet in the Finals (man, that’s a big “if” — I’m taking nothing for granted, just making an observation), I sure hope Friday’s game wasn’t an indication of how useful Chris Webber will be against the Spurs. He scored three points with two boards and no assists in 22 minutes. Fortunately, Antonio McDyess helped picked up the slack in a whopping 36 minutes, scoring 18 with 11 boards. Flip Saunders only played eight players, so the rest of the bench consisted of Flip Murray (who scored just four points but had eight assists) playing 23 minutes and Carlos Delfino (two points, four boards) playing 20.
On a side note, Spurs blog Pounding the Rock wasn’t too fond of Rasheed’s catchphrase:
Four times! Watching the game at home no less, and four times I heard Rasheed Wallace say “Ball don’t lie” after a missed free throw. In case you are unfamiliar, Old Grey-Spot unleashes his catchphrase after an opponent misses a free throw garnered via a dubious foul call on the Pistons. And Rashkie, much like, well, every Spur except maybe Matt Bonner, finds every call that doesn’t break his way quite very fucking dubious. Therefore the ball, out of some need to right the wrongs of this world, starting with one bad call at a time, casts itself asunder. First off, Mr. Wallace, a more grammatically correct statement would be “Ball doesn’t lie.” And, if you’d be so kind as to humor me, throw a “the” at the beginning. And trying switching it up occasionally: “The ball, being a spheroid of utmost integrity, refuses to allow this transgression to stand.”
Secondly, and this may be hard for you to hear Shee-Shee, the ball, uh, it doesn’t uh… it’s just a ball. It doesn’t have the ability to reason, to judge right from wrong, truth from falsehood. It doesn’t have hopes or dreams. It does not cry or poop. It never sleeps in. It’s not alive, Sheed. I mean, yeah, it can bounce, but that’s because it’s round, made of elastic material and filled with air. When you throw the ball at the ground it does not make the choice to come back to you Sheedums. It’s coefficients of restitution, not affection. PV=nRT, not devotion.
Four times? Makes me wonder how much he was paying attention. And if you’re going to poke fun at the guy, how about the fact that his 18th tech earned him his second one-game suspension? Surprised that didn’t even get a mention.
In any case, I used to think “Ball don’t lie” was funny, and then I grew indifferent, and then it actually started to annoy me. Rasheed may claim he’s not yelling it at the officials, but on TV it certainly looks like he’s looking right at them. And while that may not be (always) “tech-worthy,” it has to grate on them — it’s the equivalent of when you were a kid and you’d hold your hand two inches from your sibling’s face, repeating “I’m not touching you! I’m not touching you!” Sooner or later Mom and Dad got mad at your antics and chances are you met the business end of a wooden mixing spoon, even if you didn’t technically break the rules.
San Antonio 90, Pistons 89 box score [ESPN]
DBB preview: Pistons and Spurs (witty verb) in San Antonio
If they’re looking for something Manu Ginobili can endorse, may I recommend T-shirts? After last night’s debacle, here’s to hoping the Pistons have something left in the tank to take on the Spurs. Ball tips at 8:30 pm on TV 20 — the usual suggestion about your thoughts and these comments apply.
I was only able to watch two quarters last night before I got sick to my stomach and went to bed early. Granted, even if the 51-34 halftime score in favor of the Spurs was reversed I still would have turned off the TV — I officially have “that thing” which is “going around.”
The sad part is that the Spurs were supposed to be the team without any energy last night — not only was this the last leg of an eight-game road trip, they didn’t even arrive in Detroit until 4am due to some travel issues.
Of the portion of the game that I did see, the Pistons had some issues defensively but also couldn’t buy a bucket to save their lives: they shot just 36% in the first and 25% in the second. Tayshaun Prince shot 1-8 for the night and Rasheed Wallace just 5-15. As a whole, this isn’t a team that struggles to find quality shots, so I’m not going to over-analyze the performance. As Ian Casselberry said about the game over at Sweaty Men Endeavors:
There’s a scene in the movie State and Main where Alec Baldwin’s character smashes a car while out on a bender with an underage girl. What does he say when he gets out of the totaled vehicle? “So, that happened.”
That’s pretty much how I felt after Detroit’s 90-81 loss to San Antonio. (I’m referring to the quote, by the way - not the drunk driving with teenagers. Just thought I’d clarify.) Okay, that happened. Let’s move on to the All-Star break and try to forget this game ever took place.
Done and done. (And thanks for the post title, Sweaty Men — the flu has killed my creativity.)
Saunders lashes out As if facing one of the top teams from the Western Conference wasn’t bad enough, the Pistons flustered early by uneven officiating. From the Free Press:
The officiating unnerved the Pistons early. In the second quarter while down 10, the Pistons saw a Spur travel; the officials didn’t call it. The possession continued, and Elson hit a jumper and got a shot at a free throw. He missed that, but the Spurs got the rebound, and Ginobili hit a three-pointer.
So in the Pistons’ mind, that no-call cost them five points. Couple that with missed lay-ups and dunks, and frustration reigned.
“Every year we go to our league meetings,” Saunders said, “and make a point of emphasis about traveling. They might as well let people do what they want because we don’t call traveling. It becomes somewhat frustrating.”
Spurs 90, Pistons 81 boxscore [ESPN]
GameFlow [PopcornMachine.net]
When NBA players check out for vacation early [Sweaty Men Endeavors]
Pistons lack fundamentals, end seven-game win streak [Detroit Free Press]
Blogging with the enemy: Pounding the Rock | Project Spurs
As usual, leave any game thoughts in the comments.


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